IBIS Macromodel Task Group Meeting date: 09 Oct 2007 Members (asterisk for those attending): * Ambrish Varma, Cadence Design Systems * Arpad Muranyi, Mentor Graphics Corp. Barry Katz, SiSoft * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group David Banas, Xilinx * Donald Telian, consultant Doug White, Cisco Systems * Essaid Bensoudane, ST Microelectronics Ganesh Narayanaswamy, ST Micro * Hemant Shah, Cadence Design Systems Ian Dodd Joe Abler, IBM * John Angulo, Mentor Graphics John Shields, Mentor Graphics Ken Willis, Cadence Design Systems Kumar, Cadence Design Systems Lance Wang, Cadence Design Systems Luis Boluna, Cisco * Michael Mirmak, Intel Corp. Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems * Mike Steinberger, SiSoft Patrick O'Halloran, Tiburon Design Automation Paul Fernando, NCSU Radek Biernacki, Agilent (EESof) * Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Ray Comeau, Cadence Design Systems Richard Ward, Texas Instruments Sanjeev Gupta, Agilent Shangli Wu, Cadence Stephen Scearce, Cisco Systems Syed Huq, Cisco Systems Syed Sadeghi, ST Microelectronics * Terry Jernberg, Cadence Design Systems * Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft Vikas Gupta, Xilinx Vuk Borich, Agilent * Walter Katz, SiSoft -------------------------- Call for patent disclosure: No one declared a patent. ----- Opens: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ An AR for Ambrish was missed in the previous minutes. Ambrish was asked to complete a Microsoft Windows* version of the Cadence RX executable KIT for posting to the website. Mike Steinberger noted that he completed a BIRD review and sent some additional suggestions to the reflector. ----- ARs: No activity on items other than review of current BIRD text. ------------- New Discussion: Arpad distributed a text version of BIRD, after holding an offline discussion with Bob Ross regarding IBIS specification style issues. Editing was performed "live" on the BIRD, based on comments from the participants as documented below. Arpad: Minor edits needed on indents for formats and types Don: A typo appears on "objects" just after introduction Bob: "ex" used improperly in place of "e.g." Mike: Alignment of elipses for Model Parameter File should be made consistent The Parameter File section now uses Mike's new suggestions for tap descriptions, based on suggestions from Ambrish. The specification needs to keep tap definitions consistent with other types, but add information. The name of the tap weight is its number, and its value can be applied to the parameter with that name. Ambrish: Using Mike's suggestions, change the Definitions section so that the tap number is no longer called an argument. Don: Can tapped delay lines have other than UI spacing? Is this required? Mike suggested this is rare, but possible. The BIRD implies alignment with the UI. Walter: Non-UI-aligned tapped delay lines are not precluded. User-defined parameters may override alignment. However, EDA tool optimization is not automatic using user-defined parameters, so this could be a problem for a future BIRD to resolve. Ambrish: The example text for tx_freq_offset should be changed to 1 0 150. Bob: [End Algorithmic Model] should not appear by itself with additional comment. Examples should not feature comment character at start of line. Arpad: In Section 10, underlines were inserted under some sections for emphasis. Numbering in this section to remain the same as shown in today's draft. Arpad also removed semicolons and reformatted text around areas where semicolons appeared. Mike: No capitalization of C code. Arpad will clean up the ending of the document and provide a review copy to the team. If no significant comments emerge, he will forward this to Michael for formal entry as a BIRD. Next meeting: 16 Oct 2007 12:00pm PT